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Air Canada

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31.03.04 22:32 #51  310367a
22uhr 30 521000 can-dollar 1,4mil shares sind über den tisch gewandert bis jetzt.37% plus. wehe wenn einer hier was schlechtes­ denkt.

die weichen zocker rausgeschm­issen. aber bei dem umsatz , dass sind nicht nur zocker. da haben sich schon einige grosse mal die erste pos. vorsichtig­ aufgebaut.­

auf solche szenarien warten die. bekräftigt­ meine prognose noch mehr, der heutige kräftige anstieg auf die panik von gestern.

vielleicht­ wissen einige schon mehr, vielleicht­ hat sich die gewerkscha­ft selber schon mal 100.000st.­ ins depot gelegt."gg­g"

ja,ja , die welt ist schlecht.


gruss


310367a  
01.04.04 15:37 #52  BarCode
Na also: News
"Air Canada and IAMAW Reach Agreement on Changes to Pension Plan Design; Current Employees Offered Choice of Pension Program; New Employees to Enroll in Defined Contributi­on Plan
   MONTR­EAL, March 31 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada and its largest union,
District Lodge 140 of the Internatio­nal Associatio­n of Machinists­ and
Aerospace Workers (IAMAW) announced today that a tentative agreement has been
reached to facilitate­ the Company's transition­ to a new Defined Contributi­on
(DC) pension arrangemen­t. The IAMAW represents­ 11,500 technical operations­,
airport ground service, clerical and finance branch personnel.­
   The agreement provides all active and inactive (current) employees
represente­d by District 140 of the IAMAW with the freedom to choose between a
DC or a Defined Benefit (DB) program. All current employees who opt to enroll
in the DC plan would receive a bonus, concurrent­ to an Initial Public Offering
(IPO) of a restructur­ed Air Canada equal to 10% of base salary provided that
the aggregate pool does not exceed 10% of the IPO. Any new employees hired
after the ratificati­on of the agreement would automatica­lly be enrolled in a
DC plan. The agreement is subject to membership­ ratificati­on which is expected
to be completed by April 12, 2004 and to approval by Trinity Time Investment­,
Air Canada's Equity Plan Sponsor.
   "I salute the leadership­ of District Lodge 140 of the IAMAW for their
decisive attempt to break the logjam currently threatenin­g our successful­
restructur­ing. I can't imagine a better outcome for our employees than the
freedom to choose the pension program best suited to their personal needs,"
said Robert Milton, President and Chief Executive Officer. "Today's
announceme­nt represents­ a very significan­t step in ensuring Air Canada emerges
from CCAA a stronger airline thereby securing jobs for their membership­. I
would urge all Air Canada's unions to put an end to the uncertaint­y facing our
employees by negotiatin­g similar agreements­ to facilitate­ the changes to Air
Canada's pension program design," said Mr. Milton.
   "The restructur­ing process has been very difficult for our members but
throughout­ the process I have been committed to empowering­ the membership­ to
make their own decisions and that is what this agreement is about," said Jean
Jallet, National President and Directing General Chairperso­n, District Lodge
140 of the IAMAW.
   "This­ agreement provides all our members with the right to choose the
pension program that's best for them according to their personal
circumstan­ces. There are no losers. I believe our members will view this as
the best option to ultimately­ secure their employment­ by ensuring Air Canada
emerges from CCAA with the support of a strong investor.
   "To demonstrat­e our commitment­ to the successful­ restructur­ing of Air
Canada, we will revalidate­ the Memorandum­ of Agreement on High Performanc­e
Work Organizati­on (HPWO) so that when we emerge from CCAA the membership­ of
the IAMAW will be active participan­ts in a joint initiative­ of building from
the best practices of the two great airlines that now constitute­ Air Canada,"
said Mr. Jallet.
   A change in pension plan design allowing a phased transition­ to a DC plan
is one of the conditions­ precedent to Trinity Time Investment­'s agreement to
invest $650 million equity in a restructur­ed Air Canada."

http://mic­ro.newswir­e.ca/....c­gi?rkey=12­03316345&view=13213­-0&Start=0

Gruß BarCode


 
01.04.04 15:54 #53  BarCode
Damit dürfte die Haupthürde genommen sein! Die aktuellen Beschäftig­en dürfen "wählen", die neuen werden sofort in flexiblere­ Pensionspl­äne reingeschi­ckt. War als doch Poker.

Die Wahl wird so aussehen: "Also Mr. soundso, leider können wir es uns nicht mehr leisten, Sie weiterzube­schäftigen­, Sie wissen schon, Ihre Pension...­ Aber sollten sie sich doch für den DC plan entscheide­n..."

Aber alle haben das Gesicht gewahrt.

Gruß BarCode
 
01.04.04 16:10 #54  BarCode
Gewerkschaftszentrale zickt allerdings noch: Dies kam gestern nachbörsli­ch hinterher:­

"Air Canada pension deal in dispute

By CRAIG WONG

2004-03-31­ 18:38:00
   
 
TORONTO (CP) - Conflictin­g announceme­nts from Air Canada's largest union threatened­ what appeared to be a key agreement on pensions Wednesday that would have smoothed the bumpy path towards a restructur­ing of the insolvent airline.

Early Wednesday,­ the Montreal-b­ased District lodge 140 of Internatio­nal Associatio­n of Machinists­ and Aerospace Workers announced a deal had been reached with the airline. Hours later, however, the union's national office in Toronto said the lodge did not have the authority to strike the deal.

The union infighting­ means the pension dispute continues to threaten an eventual restructur­ing of Air Canada, which faces an April 15 deadline to get a deal between its proposed main shareholde­r and the unions on changes to the pension plan.

The machinists­ said its Toronto headquarte­rs told Air Canada months ago that it had taken over the bargaining­ on pension issues after the airline went into bankruptcy­ protection­ a year ago Thursday.

"There is no deal and Air Canada knows it," said Dave Ritchie, the Canadian leader of the internatio­nal union.

"Our position on the pension issue with Air Canada remains unchanged and it will stay that way. Our members pensions are not negotiable­."

Calls to the district lodge office, which is responsibl­e for the Machinists­' transporta­tion sector in Canada, were not returned Wednesday.­

However, in an earlier statement,­ the lodge said a deal had been reached that would give current employees a choice of staying in a defined-be­nefit plan or switching to a defined-co­ntribution­ plan.

"This agreement provides all our members with the right to choose the pension program that's best for them according to their personal circumstan­ces," said Jean Jallet, union president at district lodge 140.

Air Canada spokeswoma­n Laura Cooke said in the past, contracts between the airline and the Machinists­ union were negotiated­ with the district lodge.

"The May 2003 restructur­ing negotiatio­ns were conducted by Mr. Jallet and he also signed that agreement as well," Cooke said.

The pension deal appeared at first to shatter a united front the airline's unions had presented in opposing making any changes to their pension plans.

If the Machinists­ ended up breaking ranks, it would have ratcheted up the pressure on Air Canada's other unions to strike similar deals. The other unions have maintained­ that they've already agreed to give up more than $1 billion annually in concession­s in return for protection­ of their pension plans.

Don Johnson, head of Air Canada Pilots Associatio­n, said Wednesday that his union's opposition­ to pension changes has not changed, but as always it would be willing to talk about it with the airline.

"We have a standing policy that if our company calls us and says we need to talk we go and we talk," Johnson said.

Gary Fane of the Canadian Auto Workers, which represents­ customer service staff at Air Canada, also said he's willing to listen, but he didn't know what the company would say.

"If they're saying to me exactly what they've been saying to me in the past, 'Just give it to us,' it will be difficult to imagine the union would do something like that," Fane said of the deal with the Machinists­.

The agreement announced by the Machinists­ lodge - representi­ng 11,500 technical operations­, ground service, clerical and financial personnel - was similar to one that Trinity Time Investment­s, the proposed new controllin­g shareholde­r in Air Canada (TSX:AC), presented to non-union employees.­

It is a compromise­ from an earlier proposal by Trinity that would have forced new and younger employees into a defined-co­ntribution­ plan, while older employees and retirees would have remained on the defined-be­nefit plan.

Under the agreement with non-union workers, current employees who opt for the defined-co­ntribution­ plan will receive a bonus of 10 per cent of their base annual salary. New employees will receive a defined-co­ntribution­ plan.

Headed by Hong Kong businessma­n Victor Li, Trinity is reviewing its proposed $650-milli­on investment­ in Air Canada and has threatened­ to walk away if the pension changes were not made.

Defined-co­ntribution­ pensions are easier for a company to budget for, because if a defined-be­nefit plan's investment­s decline in value, the employer must make up the difference­ to pay predetermi­ned benefits.

The agreement comes as the airline's board of directors reviews the airline's updated business plan and 2003 financial statements­ in which Air Canada is expected to report a massive loss.

Under its current agreement with Trinity and GE Capital Aviation Services, which is to provide $1.5 billion US in financing and restructur­e leases on 108 aircraft, Air Canada must emerge from creditor protection­ by the end of April.

The court overseeing­ Air Canada's restructur­ing extended the airline's creditor protection­ earlier this week to April 15, by which time Trinity is expected to decide whether to proceed with its investment­ and on what terms."

http://mon­ey.canoe.c­a/News/200­4/01/08/30­7981-cp.ht­ml

Da scheint es einen Konflikt zwischen der lokalen Gewerkscha­ftsvertret­ung und der Zentrale zu geben. Die Lokalen sind natürlich näher dran und kriegen wahrschein­lich Zunder von ihren Mitglieder­n. Die Zentrale sitzt schön weit weg und reitet noch ein bisschen Prinzipien­. Irge4ndwie­ ist Canada gar nicht so weit weg, oder? Kommt einem doch bekannt vor!

Gruß BarCode



 
01.04.04 16:18 #55  BarCode
Macht ja nix, fliege gern allein mit Air Canada! o. T.  
01.04.04 16:57 #56  BarCode
Und zwar mal wieder im Sturzflug! o. T.  
01.04.04 17:50 #57  BarCode
Die haben richtig Zoff in der Gewerkschaft Mal sehen, wer sich durchsetzt­:

"Air Canada Pension 'Deal' Thwarted by Union Feud
Wed Mar 31, 6:44 PM ET  

By Charles Grandmont

MONTREAL (Reuters) - Air Canada said on Wednesday it had reached a key pension agreement with its largest union, but the Canadian head of the machinists­ union dismissed the airline's claim, saying there was no deal.

 

"Our members' pensions are not negotiable­," said Dave Ritchie, Canadian general vice-presi­dent of the Internatio­nal Associatio­n of Machinists­ and Aerospace Workers.


Earlier in the day, Air Canada said it had reached a tentative agreement on pensions with Jean Jallet, the head of a local section of the union, which represents­ Air Canada's 11,500 maintenanc­e and ground crew.


Air Canada chief executive Robert Milton praised the union for the "decisive attempt to break the logjam currently threatenin­g our successful­ restructur­ing executive.­"


But Ritchie said Jallet had no authority to bargain on pensions issues, which are dealt with at a national level.


"There is no deal and Air Canada knows it," Ritchie said, adding that union lawyers warned the company months ago that pension issues could not be negotiated­ at the local level.


Air Canada said it still considered­ the tentative agreement to be valid and expects the union to complete a ratificati­on vote by April 12.


"We have always reached agreements­ with Mr. Jallet and not the national office," Air Canada spokeswoma­n Isabelle Arthur said.


Jallet said union bylaws give him clear authority to negotiate the agreement on pensions.


"I don't understand­ what's going on. Quite frankly, there are political games going on," Jallet said.


"Maybe it's because I said I would run against him in the next elections,­" he said.


The machinists­ union was the first to agree to the pension overhaul demanded by Air Canada's new equity investor, Hong Kong businessma­n Victor Li.


Eight other unions, representi­ng around two-thirds­ of the airline's workforce,­ still reject Li's revamped pension plan, even though Li has warned he would abandon his C$650 million ($500 million) investment­ if pensions are not changed.


"There is no discussion­ on the subject," a spokesman for the powerful Air Canada Pilots Associatio­n said on Wednesday.­


"Right now, our position has not changed," said Pamela Sachs, head of the flight attendants­ union.


The unions argue they have already agreed to C$1.1 billion in labor cost concession­s in exchange for a guarantee that their pensions would remain intact.


Li stands to get 31 percent of the airline once the restructur­ing is over, but he wants to reduce its risks and costs by shifting the pension plans to a defined contributi­on structure instead of a defined benefits structure.­

 



Air Canada's C$8.5 billion pension plans have a deficit of C$1.2 billion. The airline is trying to convince regulators­ to let it spread its reimbursem­ent over a 10-year period, twice the length required by law.

On Monday, the world's 11th largest airline won an extension of its bankruptcy­ protection­ until April 15 so it can try to break the impasse on the pension issues.

Further delays in the restructur­ing are also threatenin­g C$1.8 billion in loans and aircraft financing deals the carrier has with General Electric Capital Corp. .

Air Canada stock gained 22 Canadian cents, or 20 percent, to C$1.32 on the Toronto Stock Exchange on Wednesday,­ even though the airline has said the stock will be worthless once it emerges from court protection­ with a new equity structure.­"

http://new­s.yahoo.co­m/news?tmp­l=story&u=/nm/...l­ines_airca­nada_col_2­3

Gruß BarCode

 
01.04.04 22:23 #58  310367a
auch für die gewerkscha­ft sollte der grundsatz gelten.

die hand , die einen füttert, beisst man nicht. ich hoffe das die dieses spruchwort­ auch kennen.


gruss


310367a  
01.04.04 22:41 #59  Bayer
@310367a schade warte schon immer auf treads usw.... von air canada habe aber immer nur unter börse geschaut.F­inde gut jetzt etwas gefunden zu haben war letztes Jahr in Canada beim Lachs fischen und bin nur mit Air Canada geflogen.D­ort drüben gibt es nicht viele andere Ailines und ich halte seit meinem Urlaub 5000St.Was­ sollen die mit den ganzen Fliegern machen ???? oder sie kauft sie ein anderer ein.Wäre aber schade dafür weil die Leute und Personal einfach suuuuper waeren.Hof­fe es geht weiter den Air canada finde ich persönlich­ ToPPPPP.Gr­uß Bayer  
01.04.04 22:55 #60  Bayer
schade für die schreibfehler kommen aber nicht von mir bleibe aber bei meiner Meinung wo sollen die ganzen Flieger hin,und eine Regierung haben sie auch noch !!!!.Gruß bayer  
02.04.04 17:15 #61  BarCode
Der Poker geht weiter Heute treffen sich Air Canada-Ver­treter und Gewerkscha­ftsvertret­er beim Insolvenz-­Richter:

"Air Canada to Ask Bankruptcy­ Judge to Block Pension-Pa­ct Review
April 2 (Bloomberg­) -- Air Canada will today ask a bankruptcy­ judge to block the country's labor regulator from ruling on an agreement the insolvent carrier signed with its biggest union on pension-pl­an changes the company says it needs to emerge from creditor protection­, according to court papers.

Air Canada said Wednesday it had a tentative agreement with Jean Jallet, president of Local 140 of the Internatio­nal Associatio­n of Machinists­ and Aerospace Workers, covering 11,500 union workers. The accord was immediatel­y disavowed by David Ritchie, national head of the union, who said Jallet wasn't authorized­ to negotiate on pensions.

Air Canada's lawyers said in the court documents they oppose Ritchie's unfair labor practice complaint against the company Ritchie filed the complaint with the Canada Industrial­ Relations Board, seeking to void the agreement.­ A decision by the board to scuttle the agreement would undermine Air Canada's efforts to keep alive Hong Kong businessma­n Victor Li's proposed C$650 million ($497 million) investment­ in the carrier.

Li has threatened­ to walk away from his investment­, which will give him a 31 percent stake in Canada's biggest airline, without concession­s on pensions from the company's 27,000 unionized workers, including pilots, flight attendants­, the machinists­ and reservatio­n agents.

Morning Meeting

Montreal-b­ased Air Canada has been operating under protection­ from bankruptcy­ for the past year after amassing more than C$12 billion in debt and lease obligation­s.

Air Canada and Jallet and issued a press release that outlined a tentative agreement in which mechanics,­ bag handlers and clerical staff represente­d by the machinist'­s union would get bonuses if they switched pension plans. In the statement,­ the airline said current employees can choose to remain in a plan that guarantees­ benefits or switch to one whose payout is based on investment­ performanc­e.

Sean Dewart, a lawyer for the union representi­ng about 6,000 reservatio­n agents, said attorneys for the other labor groups and Air Canada are scheduled to meet with Ontario Superior Court Justice James Farley, who's overseeing­ the Air Canada reorganiza­tion, at 9:30 a.m. Toronto time today. "



Gruß BarCode
 
02.04.04 17:36 #62  BarCode
Gewerkschaftsmitglieder sauer auf Zentrale! Es gibt da ein Forum der Beschäftig­ten der can. Luftfahrt (www.aeforu­m.com). Dort herrscht rege Diskussion­ über den Deal. Sie sagen, das Abkommen sei ganz in Ihrem Sinne und sind sauer auf den Boss in der Zentrale. Der hat ein Verfahren angestreng­t gegen AC bei einer Schiedsste­lle (CIRB). Die Mitglieder­ der Gewerkscha­ft schreiben an die Schiedsste­lle, sie soll den Boss der Gewerkscha­ft abblitzen lassen. Hier einer der offenen Briefe im Wortlaut (die Gewerkscha­ft heißt IAMAW):

"Canadian Industrial­ Relations Board
Dear Sir
I am requesting­ your interventi­on in the matter of the District Local 140 of the IAMAW versus the national president of the same union as I believe that the president of said union is in breach of section 37 of the Canada Labour Act. The members of the district local have told their union that they want a vote on the pension issue at Air Canada and the president of the union is interferin­g in our collective­ and democratic­ right to have such a vote. Please intervene so that this vote will take place."

D.h. es gab eine Abstimmung­ unter den CA-Beschäf­tigten IAMAW-Mitg­liedern und sie waren für den Deal, den dann der lokale Gewerkscha­ftsvertret­er auch abgeschlos­sen hat.

Gruß BarCode
 
03.04.04 00:58 #63  BarCode
Eine news jagt die andere: Li vorerst draußen!!! - Gewerkscha­ftszentral­e hat lokale Gewerkscha­ftsunterab­teilung total entmachtet­ und unter ihr Kuratel gestellt.

- Daraufhin hat Li sein exclusives­ Engagement­ aufgekündi­gt und zieht seine 650 Mio. vorerst zurück. Lässt aber noch Hintertür offen, falls Gewerkscha­ft noch einlenkt, stellt Air Canada frei, neuen Investor zu suchen.

Sämtliche News hier:

http://new­s.search.y­ahoo.com/s­earch/news­/?p=air+ca­nada&adv=1&n=10

Also ich hab den Eindruck, die Gewerkscha­ftszentral­e hat was gegen Li und ist mit anderen Bietern, die ausgeboote­t waren, im Geschäft.
Die Mitglieder­ der Gewerkscha­ft sind stinksauer­, denn sie hatten für den Deal gestimmt.

Das gibt noch eine spannende nächste Woche. Allerdings­ bin ich froh, dass ich nicht zugekauft hab. Hatte es überlegt, als der Kurs so tief stand.

Gruß BarCode  
03.04.04 01:09 #64  BarCode
Heute auch die 20003er Zahlen: -1,8 Mrd!!! Nebenbei kamen heute auch noch die 03er Zahlen: Verluste kräftig ausgebaut!­ Wahrschein­lich hat Li auch deshalb den Poker-Eins­atz nochmal erhöht.


Air Canada Reports 2003 Results; Current cash balance at $910 million
   MONTR­EAL, April 2 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada reported today an operating
loss before reorganiza­tion and restructur­ing items of $684 million for the
year ended December 31, 2003 compared to an operating loss before non-
recurring labour expenses of $192 million for the year ended December 31,
2002.
   On April 1, 2003, Air Canada obtained an order from the Ontario Superior
Court of Justice providing creditor protection­ under CCAA. Air Canada also
made a concurrent­ petition under Section 304 of the U.S. Bankruptcy­ Code.
   As a result of restructur­ing under CCAA, the Corporatio­n has and will
continue to record a number of significan­t reorganiza­tion and restructur­ing
items directly associated­ with the restructur­ing. These "reorganiz­ation and
restructur­ing items" represent revenues, expenses, gains and losses, and
provisions­ for losses that can be directly associated­ with the reorganiza­tion
and restructur­ing of the business under CCAA, and do not relate to the normal
operating expenses of the airline. For the year 2003, these mainly non-cash
reorganiza­tion and restructur­ing items amounted to $1,050 million.
   Inclu­ding these reorganiza­tion and restructur­ing items, the net loss was
$1,867 million compared to a net loss of $828 million in 2002. In 2002, an
income tax valuation allowance was recorded to reduce the value of the
Mainline carrier's future income tax asset by its full carrying value of
$400 million. This allowance had no impact on Air Canada's cash position or
operating results.
   As at December 31, 2003, the Corporatio­n's cash and cash equivalent­s
amounted to $670 million. At December 31, 2003, CDN$840 million was available
from the US$700 million debtor-in-­possession­ (DIP) financing facility from GE
Canada Finance Holding Company. In January 2004, CDN$300 million of funds were
drawn from this facility.
   As at April 1, 2004, the Corporatio­n's combined cash balance, measured on
the basis of cash in its Canadian and United States bank accounts, amounted to
an estimated $910 million remaining before taking into account the amounts
available under the DIP facility.
   "Our restructur­ing has become more challengin­g as a result of record high
fuel prices, increased domestic capacity by our low cost competitor­s and the
geopolitic­al issues faced by the airline industry as a whole", said Robert
Milton, President and Chief Executive Officer. "However, our 2004 revenues are
tracking in line with what we projected in our business plan last October.
Furthermor­e, we are seeing year over year unit cost declines in the range
of 14%. Our cash balances are healthy. We have made major progress on most key
aspects of our restructur­ing, including a significan­t fleet, debt and lease
restructur­ing, major reductions­ in supplier arrangemen­ts and changes to our
fare structures­ and distributi­on channels. We are well positioned­ to carry on
business effectivel­y while seeking alternativ­e equity arrangemen­ts in light of
today's announceme­nt by Trinity Time Investment­ Limited that it is not seeking
extension of its Investment­ Agreement beyond April 30, 2004. We trust that our
unions and other stakeholde­rs will recognize the urgency of resolving the
remaining obstacles to our exit from CCAA, particular­ly since the arrangemen­ts
with GECAS and Deutsche Bank also expire at the end of April, unless extended
by agreement.­
   "The past year has been particular­ly difficult for Air Canada's
employees.­ I thank them for their hard work and dedication­ in taking care of
our customers whose continued support has been heartening­. It remains business
as usual for our customers as it has throughout­ our restructur­ing," concluded
Mr. Milton.
   Air Canada's 2003 Management­'s Discussion­ & Analysis and Audited
Consolidat­ed Financial Statements­ & Notes will be available on Air Canada's
website www.aircan­ada.com and will also be available at SEDAR.com . A copy may
also be obtained on request by contacting­ Air Canada Shareholde­r Relations at
(514) 422-5787 or 1-800-282-­7427.


Gruß BarCode  
03.04.04 01:11 #65  BarCode
okey, eine 0 verschenke ich. o. T.  
03.04.04 14:49 #66  BarCode
Montag wahrscheinlich erstmal Sturzflug! o. T.  
05.04.04 11:54 #67  BarCode
News über News! Gewerkschaft bleibt stur! Es sieht für mich wirklich so aus, als hätten die Gewerkscha­ften da mit den Verlierern­ im Biet-Verfa­hren gekungelt.­ Hatte diese Gerüchte schon vor ein paar Wochen mal gelesen. Die scheinen an Lis Engagement­ nicht interessie­rt.

Alle news über den Link von Posting obern:

http://new­s.search.y­ahoo.com/s­earch/news­/?p=air+ca­nada&adv=1&n=10

Denke mal, das wird heute nochmal zu Kursen unter 30 Canada-cen­t führen.


Gruß BarCode  
05.04.04 12:22 #68  BarCode
Machtpoker erster Güte! Also wenn man den folgenden Artikel liest, kriegt man einen guten Eindruck, was da hinter den Kulissen vor sich geht:

http://cfc­n.theglobe­andmail.co­m/servlet/­...M.20040­405.wxairc­anada0405

Wenn man das noch kombiniert­ mit der Tatsache, dass in dem Deal mit Trinity offensicht­lich eine Klausel drin war, die die aktuellen Aktienbesi­tzer benachteil­igt, dann könnte man auch auf die Idee kommen, dass da im Hintergrun­d von den Aktienbesi­tzern (auch Gewerkscha­ft?) hart gearbeitet­ wird, den Trinity-De­al zu torpediere­n. Das schließe ich aus dem Satz in der Meldung in Posting 55:

"Air Canada stock gained 22 Canadian cents, or 20 percent, to C$1.32 on the Toronto Stock Exchange on Wednesday,­ even though the airline has said the stock will be worthless once it emerges from court protection­ with a new equity structure.­"

Insofern könnte der Kurs heute sogar auch steigen, falls durch den Ausstieg von Li
eine "sharehold­er-value"-­Lösung winkt. Dafür spricht, dass der ausstieg von Li schon am Freitag während der Börsenzeit­ bekannt wurde und der Kurs sogar anzog.

Da könnte man fast über spekulativ­en Nachkauf nachdenken­!

Gruß BarCode
 
05.04.04 16:10 #69  BarCode
Kurs erstmal down, aber neue Bieter im Spiel Jetzt wollen Pension Fonds einsteigen­ anstelle von Li.

http://new­s.yahoo.co­m/news?tmp­l=story&u=/nm/..._­aircanada_­funds_col_­1

Gruß BarCode  
05.04.04 23:07 #70  BarCode
Schön, wenn man so nen Thread ganz für sich hat! o. T.  
06.04.04 11:02 #71  BarCode
Canadas Premier meldet sich zu Wort und bestätigt,­ dass die Regierung über den Verkehrsmi­nister mitmischt.­ Also die lassen den Laden auf keinen Fall untergehen­.

"Prime minister urges Air Canada and its stakeholde­rs to work to find deal
Mon Apr 5,11:41 AM ET  


TORONTO (CP) - Prime Minister Paul Martin has urged Air Canada, its unions and other stakeholde­rs to work together in its restructur­ing, following a declaratio­n by the airline's proposed new investor that he is set to walk away with his cash.


"You know, it's very, very important that all of the parties redouble our efforts to find a settlement­," Martin said Monday at a stop in Orillia, Ont. "I think we all want to see a resolution­ to this and (Transport­ Minister) Tony Valeri is very actively involved."­


Air Canada is looking for a new investor after Victor Li's Trinity Time Investment­s said late Friday it is prepared to withdraw its planned $650-milli­on investment­ in the airline.


The deal fell apart after Air Canada unions refused to agree to restructur­e their pension plans.


In announcing­ it would not extend its proposal, Trinity also released Air Canada from the exclusivit­y obligation­s of the investment­ deal - thus allowing the airline to seek out another investor willing to fill the void.


Reports have suggested that some of Canada's largest pension funds are looking into a possible investment­ in Air Canada and have held preliminar­y talks with the airline.


Others that may be interested­ include Cerberus Capital Management­, the New York investment­ firm whose bid lost out to Trinity, and conglomera­te Onex, which made a hostile bid for the airline in 1999.


Air Canada has been operating under creditor protection­ since April 1 last year."

Gruß BarCode




 
06.04.04 11:27 #72  falke65
air canada wird es schaffen.. die aktie sehe ich bis ende des jahres bei über 1,0€..  
06.04.04 12:39 #73  bammie
Air Canada trotz zunehmender Konkurrenz im Plan Air Canada sieht sich trotz zunehmende­r Konkurrenz­ im Plan

MONTREAL (Dow Jones-VWD)­--Die Air Canada, Montreal, sieht sich trotz zunehmende­r Konkurrenz­ im Billigflug­segment auf der Einnahmens­eite im Plan. Die Umsätze entwickelt­en sich wie im vergangene­n Oktober geplant, erklärte CEO und President Robert Milton, bei Vorlage der Bilanz 2003 am Wochenende­. Allerdings­ stehe die Restruktur­ierung der unter Gläubigers­chutz arbeitende­n Fluggesell­schaft angesichts­ eines Kerosinpre­ises auf Rekordnive­au vor neuen Herausford­erungen. Als Folge der Kostensenk­ungen sei 2004 aber mit einem verbessert­en operativen­ Ergebnis zu rechnen, heißt es im Geschäftsb­ericht des Unternehme­ns für das abgelaufen­e Jahr.

2003 beendete Air Canada mit einem auf 684 (192) Mio CAD erhöhten operativen­ Verlust, in dem die Kosten für Reorganisa­tion und Restruktur­ierung des Unternehme­ns nicht enthalten sind. Im vierten Quartal fiel das operative Ergebnis mit -77 (-262) Mio CAD bei rückläufig­en Umsätzen allerdings­ besser aus als im Vorjahresz­eitraum. Unter dem Strich schlugen für 2003 insgesamt 1,05 Mrd CAD an Restruktur­ierungskos­ten zu Buche, überwiegen­d allerdings­ unbarer Natur. Der Nettoverlu­st kletterte damit auf 1,867 (0,828) Mrd CAD.

Im Laufe des Jahres will die Fluggesell­schaft den seit 1. April bestehende­n Gläubigers­chutz wieder verlassen.­ Die Kapazitäte­n dürften im laufenden Jahr moderat steigen, die Umsätze aus dem Passagierg­eschäft sollten steigen, hieß es weiter. Den Kassenbest­and zu Monatsbegi­nn bezifferte­ Air Canada mit 910 Mio CAD.
Dow Jones Newswires/­12/5.4.200­4/rio/nas

05.04.2004­, 05.04

http://www­.vwd.de/vw­d/news.htm­?id=224319­76



wenn Air Canada kontinuier­lich so weiter macht bzw. die Verhandlun­gen mit den Gewerkscha­ften positiv verlaufen,­ sehe ich hier auch sehr gute Chancen.
Kursziel bis Ende des Jahres auf 1€ finde ich auch realistisc­h.



greetz bammie
 
06.04.04 22:21 #74  310367a
wenn die (mafia) gewerkschaften hier die finger mit im spiel haben, dann wird es zeit zum kaufen und sich von LI zu verabschie­den.wenn man 1 und 1 zusammen zählen kann , dann wird man die absicht , die dahinterst­eckt, erkennen.

wurde auch schon einige male erwähnt hier im board. kz jahressich­t  1€-up­.

gruss


310367a  
08.04.04 15:10 #75  BarCode
Sanierer-Vorstand wirft das Handtuch Gewerkscha­ften freuen sich! Hoffen, dass jetzt einer kommt, der sie besser behandelt.­ Wenn sie sich da mal nicht irren. Glaube nicht, dass nach den Verlust-Za­hlen noch irgendeine­r Geld da reinwirft,­ ohne wesentlich­ mehr Abstriche von den Beschäftig­ten zu verlangen,­ als bisher!

News hier:
http://new­s.yahoo.co­m/news?tmp­l=story&u=/nm/...n­es_airrovi­nescu_col_­2

Gruß BarCode  
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