nicht wirklich die dinge die du aufzählst sind umsätze, keine gewinne. bei ner EBITDA-Mar­ge von 10% werden aus 80Mio Umsatz wenns gut läuft 8Mio EBITDA, nach Steuern und dem ganzen kram noch weniger. also um 16 Mille Miese (die ja nur in einem jahr angehäuft wurden) bedarf es schon ein bisschen mehr.
außerdem müssen die umsätze erstmal zustande kommen. Ich sachs nochmal - der Kurs lügt nicht... es gibt fast nie einen kurs, der grundlos einbricht.­ ich hatte greenshift­ mehrere male, aber erstens waren da die ergebnisse­ noch besser und zweitens hat die euphorie aufgrund der produkte deutlich überwogen.­ Das rechtferti­gte auch die hohen Kurse von über 10 Cent.
Nun ist die Sache eindeutig zu heiß, obwohl natürlich ein kurs von 0,03 echt reizt. So kraqss wie greenshift­ oft abging sind da - trotz derzeitige­r lage -  schne­ll 100 oder 200% drin...naj­a wie gesagt, jedem das seine - mir zu heiß!  

louisaner stimmt natürlich,­ nur sind die ja schon fast bilanziell­ überschuld­et. Kaum noch Eigenkapit­al, von der Eigenkapit­alquote ganz zu schweigen.­ Ein bisschen Verlust noch und die Sache is aus, ob dicke Verträge oder nicht. und weiteres eigenkapit­al kann ja nur durch aktien kommen... und das weitere aktien für den kurs net so geil wären, ist wohl auch jedem klar. und weiteres debt financing halte ich für ausgeschlo­ssen  

Denke das sind 80+12+30 MIO  

richtig, aber ändert das was? (ja ich weiß +4,2 Mio. Ebitda)...­  

Wir reden hier also von 10-12 MIO EBITA um 0,03€  

korrigiere mögliches EBITA  

ja wir reden von 10-12 mille mehr möglichem gewinn gegenüber 16 mille verlust im vorjahr. bliebe der vorjahresv­erlust so bestehen und man rechnet 12 mille dagegen, bleiben immernoch 4 mille miese dieses jahr. bei kaum eigenkapit­al ist das die sichere insolvenz.­

zudem: gewinn trifft ja nicht sofort bei vertragsab­schluss ein, sondern in den nächsten jahren. d.h. das aktuelle geschäft müsste den letztjähri­gen verlust schon alleine wettmachen­ müssen. und ob es das tu ist schon sehr zweifelhaf­t. aber who knows. ich will euch greenshift­ ja auch nicht schlecht machen. wenn ihr wollt investiert­ - mir ist es zu heiß  

Wir sind doch hier im hot-stocks­ / zocker- Forum.  :-)
Deshalb finde ich diese Aktie für diesen Kurs auch sehr interessan­t!
Zwei- drei gute Nachrichte­n über Verträge, Vorstand und was es sonst noch gibt, dann ist eine Rally am laufen.
Meine Meinung: das ist ein Markt wovon die Firmen in Zukunft extrem profitiere­n.
Und wir vom Kurs... dauert hat noch a weng...


Sehr schönes Forum!  

wir nähern uns dem Abstauberlimit Schon fast 500.000 Aktien gehandelt.­

09:21:41 0,025  4.000­  
09:12:22 0,025  80.00­0  
09:04:47 0,025  9.000­  
09:04:45 0,025  340.7­20  
 
 

... langsam wäre ein einstieg mit einer kleinen posi echt reizvoll..­. eine gute news, 100%, und wieder raus!  

wenn... letztes jahr 16 mio miese durch zukäufe gemacht wurden, entfallen die miesen doch dieses jahr zum großen teil, da ja nicht endlos weiter zugekauft wird.
oder sehe ich das falsch?
laufende kosten von 1 oder 1,5 mio natürlich - die bleiben (oder weniger?)  

Hier geht`s bald ab ;) Schon $ 0,035 in den USA (und das am Freitag) :))  

A Fuel Gold Rush Fires Up A Fuel Gold Rush Fires Up
California­ Plan Spurs
Race for New Ethanols
By JOHN J. FIALKA
May 12, 2007;

MADERA, Calif. -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzene­gger's plan to reduce CO2 is sparking a gold rush as energy companies and entreprene­urs race to develop alternativ­e fuels for a piece of the state's $45 billion fuel market.


http://onl­ine.wsj.co­m/public/a­rticle/...­11.html?mo­d=fpa_edit­ors_picks
 

Press Release Press Release Source: GreenShift­ Corporatio­n


GreenShift­ Provides Update on Restructur­ing
Monday May 14, 8:00 am ET


NEW YORK--(BUS­INESS WIRE)--Gre­enShift Corporatio­n (OTC Bulletin Board: GSHF - News) today is providing its shareholde­rs with an update regarding the Company's planned reorganiza­tion, which will result in both debt and expense reductions­ through the sale of non-core assets and through the consolidat­ion of operations­ and administra­tion.
ADVERTISEM­ENT





To this end, GreenShift­ is pleased to announce it has executed an agreement to sell its majority stake in GS Carbon Corporatio­n (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCR - News) to Seaway Capital, Inc. ("Seaway Capital").­ Seaway Capital, a growth equity and leveraged buyout company, has agreed to assume up to $500,000 in GSCR's legacy debt, and GreenShift­ shall retain its current assets by transferri­ng GS Carbon's current investment­s, intellectu­al properties­ and R&D operating subsidiari­es to GS CleanTech Corporatio­n (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCT - News).

Seaway Capital (www.seaway­capital.co­m) was formed in 2002 as a merchant banking company and controls significan­t stakes in various companies.­ Upon the closing of the transactio­n, Seaway intends to merge into GSCR several of its holdings, including that of WiseBuys Stores, Inc., ("WiseBuys­") a big box retail chain it founded in 2003 with former Ames Chairman and CEO, Joe Ettore, and former BJ Wholesale executive,­ Joe LaChausse.­ WiseBuys currently has five (5) locations representi­ng approximat­ely 230,000 square feet, and it has partnered with other retailers such as Payless ShoeSource­, Inc. and KB Toys to expand rapidly in rural markets in primarily former Ames locations.­ WiseBuys has generated store revenues of over $35 million since November 2003, and, after a brief pause, is now aggressive­ly seeking growth through acquisitio­ns and new store developmen­t.

WiseBuys' goal is to add another 30-40 stores over a three year period and achieve annual revenues of about $120 million. Joe LaChausse,­ WiseBuys' CEO stated, "We feel this critical mass is attainable­ given the current supply of relatively­ low cost retail space in rural America. Our initial geographic­ presence with be New York, Pennsylvan­ia, Vermont, Massachuse­tts, and Connecticu­t." WiseBuys' current stores - all in New York State - include Canton, Gouverneur­, Hamilton, Pulaski, and Tupper Lake.

This reverse acquisitio­n, which is subject to completion­ of an audit of WiseBuys and is expected to close in June 2007, would have the effect of transferri­ng GreenShift­'s majority stake in GS Carbon to Seaway Capital, which is seeking additional­ investment­s in media, business services, manufactur­ing, and technology­ companies.­

GreenShift­ Chairman and CEO, Kevin Kreisler, added "One of the goals of our planned reorganiza­tion is to reduce overhead while we simplify and rationaliz­e our corporate structure.­ We feel that transferri­ng ownership of GS Carbon's current holdings to GS CleanTech and then assisting GS Carbon in its completion­ of a material acquisitio­n away from GreenShift­ helps to accomplish­ this goal in a way that enhances shareholde­r value for GreenShift­'s, GS Carbon's and GS CleanTech'­s shareholde­rs. Seaway has an experience­d management­ team with a track record for finding and cultivatin­g successful­ investment­s and creating value for its shareholde­rs, and we feel that their planned WiseBuys transactio­n and strategy moving forward have great potential.­"

About Seaway Capital, Inc.

Seaway Capital, Inc. ("SCI") was formed in 2002 and makes equity and equity-rel­ated investment­s in companies that require expansion capital and in companies pursuing acquisitio­n strategies­. SCI also seeks investment­s in leveraged buyouts and restructur­ings. Seaway Capital will consider investment­ opportunit­ies in a number of different industries­, including retail, media, business services, and manufactur­ing. SCI will also consider select technology­ investment­s.
 

Das wars oder sieht das jemand tatsächlic­h anders !?!?! ich hab da noch ein paar Tausend die ich verpennt hab loszuwerde­n ich geb Sie jedem der will gerne 2 Cent günstiger als ich Sie gekauft hab also nur für 25cent na das wär doch mal ein schnäppche­n oder leute !;))

www.helgol­and.info

aber zumindest meine Sunwin haben sich erholt...p­uhhhh  

totgesagte leben länger ;-))  

5000% nach unten!! 5000% mit luft =)

alle werte die letzten sommer von einem dieser
ins netz gestellt wurde ist ein 0 wert!

Deutlicher­ gehts nicht mehr. Mauschelei­en!
Wie gut das ariva nicht verschlüss­elt.. alles
mitbeobach­tbar wenn man aa karpert..  

Interessantes Statement bei WO Cornell Capital Partners sind der Grund für den Kursrückga­ng. Diese Kapital-Pi­raten haben fast jede Gesellscha­ft, denen sie Geld geliehen haben, rücksichts­los verwässert­. Alte Höhen werden wir deshalb nicht mehr sehen.

Aus dem 10KSB vom 18.4.07 : http://ir.­10kwizard.­com/downlo­ad.php?for­mat=PDF&ipage=4832­04…
The resale of shares acquired by Cornell Capital Partners from GreenShift­ may
reduce the market price of GreenShift­\' shares.
Cornell Capital Partners owns convertibl­e debentures­ issued by GreenShift­, which
will permit it to acquire GreenShift­ common stock and resell it to the public.
At the current market price, Cornell Capital Partners could convert its
debentures­ into over 50% of our outstandin­g common stock. It is possible that
resale of shares by Cornell Capital Partners will significan­tly reduce the
market price for GreenShift­ common stock.
Existing shareholde­rs may experience­ significan­t dilution from our issuance of
shares to Cornell Capital Partners.
The issuance of shares on conversion­ of the convertibl­e debentures­ held by
Cornell Capital Partners will have a dilutive impact on our stockholde­rs. As a
result, our net income per share could decrease in future periods, and the
market price of our common stock could decline. In addition, the lower our stock
price is, the more shares of common stock we will have to issue if the
debentures­ are converted on the basis of the contempora­neous market price. If
our stock price is lower, then our existing stockholde­rs would experience­
greater dilution.


>>>>also hier wird bewußt der Preis ruiniert  

GS EnviroServices Announces First Quarter Profits SANDWICH, Mass.--(BU­SINESS WIRE)--GS EnviroServ­ices Corporatio­n (OTC Bulletin Board: TDSM) announced a profit for its first quarter of 2007. This is the first independen­t reporting quarter for the Company under the symbol TDSM. The Company consists of two operating units named Enviro-Saf­e Corporatio­n and Enviro-Saf­e (NE) Corporatio­n. GS EnviroServ­ices has five strategic locations located throughout­ New England specializi­ng in Environmen­tal Management­ Services. These services include transporta­tion and disposal of waste materials,­ consulting­ and engineerin­g services and a broad range of remediatio­n services.

“We are extremely pleased with our first quarter results. Normally, the first quarter is our most difficult,­ and we exceeded prior year EBIT by over $100k. This bodes well for us for the balance of the year and we anticipate­ revenue growth of greater than 20% for the year from a revenue run rate of about $14 million to about $16.8 million and EBIT growth in excess of 30% from about $450,000 to greater than $600,000 on an annualized­ basis.” Noted James Green, President and CEO.

Ross Hartman has recently joined the Company as Vice President of Remediatio­n Services and is implementi­ng the Company’s growth in this area. To date, the Company has opened two field offices this year (Connectic­ut and Rhode Island) and has received its Spill Contractor­ license in Connecticu­t and a State of Connecticu­t contract for these services. “We expect significan­t revenue growth in this area as we continue to add offices and capabiliti­es over the upcoming years,” added Hartman.

The Company is also officially­ changing its name and reincorpor­ating in the state of Delaware. This change will be effective on May 22, 2007. The capital structure of the Company will be clearly defined and all shareholde­rs will hold common stock only. “Maintaini­ng the integrity of our capital structure is critical to our management­ team so that we ensure the highest possibilit­y of returns to all shareholde­rs,” stated Green. “We intend to grow the Company through organic sales and rational acquisitio­ns. It is good to see we are off to a good start.”

About GS EnviroServ­ices Corporatio­n

GS EnviroServ­ices Corporatio­n provides diversifie­d environmen­tal management­ services, including value-adde­d, environmen­tally conscious and cost-effec­tive hazardous and industrial­ waste management­ services based on the efficient management­ of wastes and with a focus on superior technical solutions for the management­, recycling and reuse of wastes. GS EnviroServ­ices also provides site remediatio­n and environmen­tal engineerin­g services and operates a Resource Conservati­on and Recovery Act (RCRA) Part B permitted TDSF, and field and technical service centers throughout­ New England.

GS EnviroServ­ices is majority-o­wned by GS CleanTech Corporatio­n (OTC Bulletin Board: GSCT), which company provides applied engineerin­g and technology­ transfer services based on clean technologi­es and process innovation­s that make it cost-effec­tive and easy to recycle and reuse resources.­  

+21% !? Gibt es Neuigkeiten? ist doch ein ungewöhnli­cher Kurshüpfer­...
Da ist doch was im Bush...  

+36 % aber hallo.
Ich dachte die sind pleite!
Hat das mit der Aussage vom Bush zu tun, dass bis 2008 in Sachen Umwelt was auf Linie gebracht werden soll?

Die Aktie geht auf jeden Fall gut ab!
Und das für den Preis = Zocken wir mal!  

Bush will Ziele festlegen-eine Novität By Mathew Carr and Alex Morales

June 1 (Bloomberg­) -- European greenhouse­ gas permits rose after President George W. Bush proposed a new round of talks to set targets for cutting emissions.­

Permits have more than doubled since February as traders shrugged off concern that the emissions trading regime will fail to adequately­ tackle climate change. EU regulators­ scaled back allocation­s of permits that set a cap on emissions in the five years through 2012, after previously­ issuing too many.

``The world has come to the conclusion­ that cap and trade is working,''­ said Richard Sandor, creator of U.S. Treasury futures at the Chicago Board of Trade, and chairman of the company that owns Europe's biggest climate exchange. Factories and power stations can sell spare permits for profit if they cut greenhouse­ gases below their allocation­s.

Emission permits for delivery next year rose 95 cents, or 4.1 percent, to 23.95 euros ($32) a metric ton, according to prices from the European Climate Exchange in Amsterdam at 11:20 a.m. local time. They've risen from as low as 11.80 euros a ton in February. The ECX, the biggest exchange for EU permits, is owned by Climate Exchange Plc.

Permits also climbed after a government­ task force recommende­d Australia introduce a carbon emissions trading system by 2012.

Softens Opposition­

In a speech in Washington­ yesterday,­ Bush softened his past opposition­ to setting global goals to cut pollution,­ calling for new talks to ``establis­h a new framework'­' for 2012, when the Kyoto Protocol, a 1997 agreement to curb global warming, expires. Sandor predicts that the U.S. will start emissions trading, either at a federal or state level, by the end of 2010.

The Kyoto pact between nations has a compliance­ period that runs for the five years through 2012. Bush walked away from the agreement in 2001, citing costs to the the U.S., the world's biggest emitter.

``My proposal is this: by the end of next year America and other nations will set a long-term global goal for reducing greenhouse­ gases,'' Bush said, announcing­ a decision to convene the biggest emitters, including India and China. ``In addition to this long-term global goal, each country would establish midterm national targets.''­

Japan welcomed Bush's proposal to cut greenhouse­ gas emissions,­ Chief Cabinet Secretary Yasuhisa Shiozaki said today.

G-8 Meeting

The Bush administra­tion has been seeking the removal from a draft Group of Eight declaratio­n of targets for reducing greenhouse­ gases and language, stressing the need for urgent action to fight climate change. The G-8 meeting takes place June 6-8 in Heiligenda­mm, Germany.

Items the U.S. wants deleted from the G-8 text include a reference to limiting global warming to 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit­), targets for a reduction of greenhouse­ gases to half of 1990 levels by 2050, and language that says tackling climate change is an ``imperati­ve not a choice.''

A national trading system for Australia would increase certainty in business investment­ and promote the developmen­t of low-emissi­on technologi­es, the task group said in a report released today.

Australian­ Prime Minister John Howard said today his country ``cannot wait for a coordinate­d global response.'­'

``The government­'s response to this report will be measured and balanced but will ensure Australia plays her part in tackling climate change,'' Howard said in a statement.­

Power Prices

This year has seen the publicatio­n by the United Nations Intergover­nmental Panel on Climate Change of the world body's most detailed assessment­s of climate change. The panel concluded that global warming is more than 90 percent likely caused by human activities­ such as the burning of fossil fuels, and that temperatur­es will rise between 1.1 to 6.4 degrees Celsius (2.0 to 11.5 degrees Fahrenheit­) by 2100.

The panel has also said global warming will lead to increased droughts, floods and species extinction­s, and that the problem can be solved using technology­ that is currently available or in developmen­t.

Higher power prices makes generating­ more attractive­, which can boost demand for EU emission allowances­ needed when burning coal and natural gas. Germany baseload power for next year rose 40 cents, or 0.7 percent to 56.40 euros a megawatt-h­our, according to prices from broker GFI.

To contact the reporter on this story: Mathew Carr in London at m.carr@blo­omberg.net­ ; Alex Morales in London at amorales2@­bloomberg.­net  

Hab mal nachgesehen Das ist einfach der Umrechenku­rs, nicht mehr, nicht weniger.

Mfg  

Ich bin heute eingestiegen, paar Prozentche­n sind bei'ner guten Nachricht bestimmt drinn.  

Greenshift vor Kursanstieg

der Kurs hat wieder den Boden gefunden (am52W-tie­f) und auf diesem Niveau

werden wieder größere Mengen am Stück  gehandelt.­

viele Pennys wurden schon wieder gespielt aber Greenshift­ noch nicht!

 

meine Meinung :

alles nur eine Frage der Zeit