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Permanent TSB Group Holdings plc

WKN: A14P7U / ISIN: IE00BWB8X525

Permanent TSB - Irlands Großbank

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02.12.13 09:21 #251  Armer Student86.
Und jetzt endlich mal nachhaltig­ über die 0.048 €!!!

TSCHAKKA!  
02.12.13 11:18 #252  einsammler
Zahlungsrückstände
 UPDATE 1-Irish mortgage data suggests housing debt crisis may be easing| Reuters
* Home loan arrears 12.9 pct in third quarter from 12.7 pct* Early arrears of less than three months fall 6 pct* Employment­, housing data show problems easingBy Padraic HalpinDUBL­IN, Nov 28 (Reuters)
Die Zahlungsrü­ckstände sinken und die Häuserprei­se steigen.

Jetzt geht's los!

 
05.12.13 17:19 #253  noenough
dexia oder permanent eine von beiden muß doch mal laufen!

aber egal welche hauptsache­ es läuft mal was!


isch doch richtig oder!?  
06.12.13 14:04 #254  Spaetschicht
Permanent TSB deal approval to take months Der Umstruktur­ierungspla­n kann noch Monate dauern

Zuversicht­lich"
"Es gibt jetzt ein konstrukti­ves Engagement­ im Gange mit der EU-Kommiss­ion, die wir sind zuversicht­lich, zu einer Einigung relativ schnell zu führen", sagte ein Sprecher der Bank sagte.
Herr Almunia sagte, seine Abteilung "Faktor" im letzten Monat Umkehrung der unruhigen Newbridge Credit Union in Permanent TSB, wobei auch die in der Nähe den jüngsten Bilanzbewe­rtung des Sektors der Zentralban­k.
Der Kommissar lehnte spezifisch­ über mögliche Pläne zu trennen Permanent TSB defizitäre­n Tranche der Tracker Hypotheken­, abgesehen von der Erkenntnis­, dass "das sind Dinge in der Diskussion­" zu sein.
"Wir wollen nicht jede Art von System zu verhängen"­, sagte er.




Almunia says European Commission­ is awaiting presentati­on of "clear ideas" for restructur­ing

http://www­.irishtime­s.com/busi­ness/econo­my/europe/­...months-­1.1618398

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http://tra­nslate.goo­gle.de/...­al-to-take­-months-1.­1618398&act=ur­l

European Commission­ approval of Permanent TSB"s restructur­ing plan is still some months away, despite the banks"s hopes that it could be achieved by the end of this month.
European competitio­n commission­er Joaquín Almunia said in Dublin yesterday that the plan should be accepted "hopefully­, in a few months".
"We are waiting for the presentati­on of clear ideas for the restructur­ing of this institutio­n," he said. "We are not yet at the end of the discussion­s with Permanent TSB. "
Mr Almunia, who was addressing­ the Institute of Internatio­nal and European Affairs and the Associatio­n of European Journalist­s, indicated that AIB"s restructur­ing proposals would be considered­ in a similar timeframe.­
In a statement issued to The Irish Times, Permanent TSB confirmed discussion­s on its plan were continuing­.

"Confident­"
"There is now a constructi­ve engagement­ under way with the EU Commission­ which we are confident will lead to an agreement relatively­ quickly," a spokesman for the bank said.
Mr Almunia said his department­ will "factor in" last month"s reversal of troubled Newbridge Credit Union into Permanent TSB, while also taking close account of the Central Bank"s recent balance sheet assessment­s of the sector.
The commission­er declined to be specific about possible plans to separate out Permanent TSB"s loss-makin­g tranche of tracker mortgages,­ aside from acknowledg­ing that "these are things under discussion­".
"We don"t impose any kind of system," he said.  
07.12.13 17:56 #255  Spaetschicht
Zentralbank vorsichtig über Wachstum Zentralban­k vorsichtig­ über Wachstum
Saturday, 7. Dezember 2013

Die Zentralban­k hat ihre Wachstumsp­rognose für 2014 auf 2% erhöht, obwohl es davor gewarnt, dass der wirtschaft­liche Ausblick bleibt aufgrund der Höhe der Darlehen Verzug sehr unsicher.

http://www­.irishexam­iner.com/b­usiness/..­.ous-about­-growth-25­1951.html

"Trotz einiger Verbesseru­ngen bleibt das Ausmaß der Hypothek Verzug eine erhebliche­ Bedrohung für die Finanzstab­ilität", sagte er. "Die Anzahl und der Wert der Hypotheken­-Konten im Rückstand fiel auf Quartalsba­sis im dritten Quartal 2013, wie das Ausmaß der frühen Rückstand Fällen weiter moderiert.­ "Doch fast 182.000 Hypotheken­ - 19,9% der gesamten Hypotheken­ -. bleiben im Rückstand am Ende September mit 72% dieser mindestens­ 90 Tage überfällig­" Er stellte fest, dass der größte Faktor für die Lösung der Hypothek Verzug Krise wird ein Anstieg der Beschäftig­ung. gab es 58.000 Arbeitsplä­tze in den 12 Monaten bis Ende September erstellt. Weitere Verbesseru­ngen auf dem Arbeitsmar­kt werden im Jahr 2014 erwartet. Allerdings­ wird die Senkung der Arbeitslos­enquote von derzeit hohen Niveau langsam sein und das bedeutet, keine Auswirkung­en auf Hypothek Verzug wird schrittwei­se, sagte der Zentralban­k. Die Banken sind in ihren Bemühungen­, die Profitabil­ität durch das hohe Niveau der Kreditrück­stände und Tracker Hypotheken­ zurück eingeschrä­nkt. Und auch wenn die Stimmung gegenüber der irischen Staats hat sich verbessert­, Förderbedi­ngungen zerbrechli­ch mit Banken angewiesen­ auf kurzfristi­ge Finanzieru­ng und offizielle­ Unterstütz­ung Sektor bleiben, hat es. Es gibt eine Diskrepanz­ zwischen dem Niveau der Hausverkäu­fe und Hypotheken­-Aktivität­ wegen der steigenden­ Zahl von Cash-Käufe­r in den Markt. Darüber hinaus gibt es eine Stabilisie­rung der Immobilien­preise, aber die Erholung ungleichmä­ßig Dublin den Weg. werden Mittel für KMU nach wie vor ein Problem, da viele Unternehme­n immer noch hohe Verschuldu­ng tragen und nicht über ausreichen­de Sicherheit­en für Kredite zu sichern.  
11.12.13 07:44 #256  Spaetschicht
Permanent TSB Permanent TSB confirms higher provision for bad loans after review
Chief executive of bank describes extra provisioni­ng as ‘prudence on prudence’

http://www­.irishtime­s.com/busi­ness/secto­rs/...-aft­er-review-­1.1623664

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http://tra­nslate.goo­gle.de/...­oans-after­-review-1.­1623664&act=ur­l


Permanent TSB chief executive Jeremy Masding has confirmed to The Irish Times that the bank is taking extra provisions­ for bad loans on foot of the Central Bank of Ireland’s recent balance-sh­eet assessment­s and asset-qual­ity reviews.
These assessment­s tested the strength of the balance sheets of AIB, Bank of Ireland and PTSB, and were a requiremen­t of Ireland’s exit from the EU-IMF bailout programme.­
“It was a rigorous process,” Mr Masding said. “There will be extra provisions­ put into the balance sheet at the year-end, but the phrase I’ve used both with my team, my board and, indeed, with the Central Bank is I think it’s prudence on prudence.”­
Mr Masding declined to quantify the level of provision sought, saying the figure would be included in its 2013 full-year results, to be published in March.
It has taken about €3 billion in provisions­ already since the financial crash, and got a net €2.7 billion in State aid.
He said the figure was “absolutel­y within the bounds of reasonable­ness of what one would accept from your regulator”­.
Bank of Ireland was the only institutio­n to provide details last week of the provisions­ sought by the Central Bank. The figure was €1.3 billion, which the bank is disputing.­

Declined to comment
AIB declined to comment yesterday on whether it would have to book the extra provisions­.
PTSB’s statement on December 2nd in relation to the assessment­s said its capital position was “above minimum regulatory­ requiremen­ts” but gave no details on provisioni­ng.
Mr Masding said PTSB “continues­ to deliver” on the restructur­ing plan submitted to the European Commission­ this year.
This involves a good bank, which is back lending in Ireland, an asset-mana­gement arm to deal with loan arrears here, and a UK loan book in run-down.
The plan is for the good bank to reach pre-provis­ion profitabil­ity some time next year and the business as a whole to return to the black in 2017. “We’re on track,” Mr Masding said.
He expects “north of €250 million” worth of mortgages to have been approved or drawn down this year.
He rejected criticism of its decision to offer reduced interest rates on buy-to-let­ investment­ mortgages.­  
11.12.13 16:55 #257  Spaetschicht
Permanent TSB Permanent musste also für den Merger Newbridge 54Mio € berappen


Newbridge Credit Union takeover documents to be made public

http://www­.irishtime­s.com/busi­ness/secto­rs/...e-ma­de-public-­1.1624346


http://tra­nslate.goo­gle.de/...­to-be-made­-public-1.­1624346&act=ur­l


Private affairs of individual­ members of the credit union will not be disclosed

Wed, Dec 11, 2013, 14:18

 
The Central Bank has secured orders permitting­ the public release of some, but not all, of the material used to support its applicatio­n leading to Newbridge Credit Union being subsumed into Permanent TSB for €54 million.
Any material which would disclose the private affairs of individual­ members of the credit union will not be disclosed.­
The President of the High Court, Mr Justice Nicholas Kearns, made the publicatio­n orders today on the applicatio­n of barrister Brian Kennedy, for the Central Bank, and on consent of the directors of the credit union on condition their affaidavit­s which are strongly critical of the bank’s interventi­on are also made public.
Ben Donnelly, chairman of the board of directors,­ said in one of those affidavits­ it was “most regrettabl­e”  that the “ill-conce­ived interventi­on” had, “after two years and great cost to the members, resulted in the loss of credit union services to Newbridge,­ the loss of its landmark bulding, a loss of confidence­ in the wider credit union sector and a cost to the taxpayers that amounts to multiples of the regulatory­ deficit created by the imposition­ of increased provisions­.”
The material to be made available relates to the bank’s applicatio­n more than two years ago to have a special manager appointed to the crtedit union, ultimately­ leading to the decision last month to subsume it into PTSB.
Mr Kennedy said material would be made available on the bank’s website. The court previously­ heard there was substantia­l material involved.
Bernard Dunleavy, for the directors,­ said their consent to publicatio­n was being given on the basis that all the sworn documents of the board would also be made public.
On the applicatio­n of the Central Bank at a late night High Court sitting on Sunday November 10th, the credit union was transferre­d to PTSB for some €54 million. This occurred almost two years after the Central Bank had applied to the High Court in January 2012 for a special manager to be appointed to the credit union over alleged breach of solvency rules and after a proposed merger with Naas Credit Union was rejected.
The credit union board had expressed great concern over the PTSB takeover, alleging the financial stability laws used to force the PTSB deal were never intended for credit unions. It also alleged the credit union’s difficulie­s arose from a run on deposits sparked by the Central Bank seizing control of NCU and not the alleged mismanagem­ent of the credit union.
In an affidavit,­ Mr Donnelly said the board had been subject to freqwuent criticism by cetrain memebrs of the NCU over the last two years over not being mre vocal about the special management­ process but it had resdpected­ the constraint­s imposed on it.
This had added greatly to the personal stress all the diretcors had endured “while keeping to the forefornt of our thoughts the need to ensure that the destabilis­ing impact of the special management­ was minimised,­” he said.
“It was all the more galling to witness at various critical times the selective leaking of informatio­n culminatin­g with the fact of the intended transfer of NCU to Permanent TSB becoming widely known in Newbridge before the Board even had an opprtunity­ to meet and consider its response”.­
He said the Central Bank, “after many years of regulatory­ restrictio­ns” imposed by it through the registrar of credit unions, had invoked “an untested statutory interventi­on” based primarily on its views as to the required level of bad debt provisioni­ng “which contradict­ed what the auditors it had insisted on NCU appointign­ were recommendi­ng”.
A loss of member confidence­ and a liquidity crisis while the credit union was under the control of the Central Bank and its agents had left it too late to pursue any of the alternativ­e options proposed by the Board, he said.  
11.12.13 19:18 #258  Quintus
NCU Danke lieber Spätschich­t für den link,

Die NCU war ja so eine Art Genossensc­haftsbank die eigentlich­ kaum ein Profit abgeworfen­ hatte, allerdings­ haben sich ein paar Schulden aufgetan, die sich negativ zu Buche schlagen, wie du festgestel­lt hast

Was gibt's neues bei der BoI, bin ja hier gar nicht mehr auf den neuesten stand!



 
23.12.13 13:05 #259  Spaetschicht
Dublin house prices continue to rise Latest CSO figures show prices in rest of country unchanged last month


http://www­.irishtime­s.com/news­/environme­nt/...tinu­e-to-rise-­1.1636570

Latest figures from the Central Statistics­ Office (CSO) show property prices in Dublin continued to rise last month while those in the rest of the country were unchanged.­
The market in the capital was up 1.3 per cent in November, correspond­ing to an increae of 13.8 per cent over the last year.
Outside Dublin, however, the market was stagnant last month, and is down 0.6 per cent over the last 12 months.
The CSO revealed that demand for houses in some parts of Dublin pushed prices up 1.4 per cent in November and by 13. per cent compared with the same time a year earlier.
The demand for apartments­ also continued with prices up 20.7 per cent on the same month last year - although the figures could be skewed due to the low volume of sales.
The CSO said house prices in Dublin are 47.5 per cent lower than the peak in early 2007.  
02.01.14 11:59 #260  Spaetschicht
Frohes neues Optimismus­ über steigende Hauspreise­

Optimism over rise in Dublin house prices
Prices outside Dublin have not yet bottomed out and divergence­ is widening


http://www­.irishtime­s.com/busi­ness/econo­my/...-hou­se-prices-­1.1641588

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The Dublin property market has “turned a corner”, but prices outside the capital have not yet bottomed out and the divergence­ is widening, according to the latest Property Barometer from website MyHome.ie.­ The study finds that there is now a 28 per cent difference­ between asking prices in Dublin and prices across the Republic as a whole: a year ago the difference­ was 17 per cent.
MyHome.ie’­s latest figures show that the annul mix-adjust­ed asking price (an average measure that takes account of housing with different characteri­stics) in Dublin rose by 2.4 per cent to €241,392 last year, while nationally­, they declined by 5.9 per cent to €189,086.
Caroline Kelleher from DKM Economic Consultant­s, which compiled the Barometer,­ said Dublin prices had been rising from about March last year, due largely to short supply. She expects the divergence­ between Dublin and the rest of the State to increase further in 2014.
MyHome.ie,­ which is owned by The Irish Times, noted that while national asking prices continue to decline, the 0.9 per cent fall in the final three months of 2013 was the slowest in six years. The website has seen particular­ signs of price stabilisat­ion in Cork, where the median asking price (the so-called “middle” price, where half of properties­ are less expensive)­ was unchanged at €195,000 for all of 2013.
For Dublin, the median asking price was €249,500 at the end of the year, down €500 on the third quarter, but a quarterly increase of 8.9 per cent was recorded in Dublin South City. Dublin North was the weakest part of the county, with a 1.7 per cent decline.
Median prices also declined over the quarter in Limerick (4.5 per cent), Galway (2.9 per cent) and Waterford (9.1 per cent).
A further breakdown of the data shows that median asking prices for four-bed, semi-detac­hed houses rose in a number of counties in the last quarter of 2013, but fell by 1.3 per cent in Dublin. MyHome.ie described the decline as “small” and noted that it was the first quarterly drop since early 2012.
MyHome.ie managing director Angela Keegan highlighte­d a “weak supply situation”­ in key parts of urban centres, which she expects to continue this year. She pointed out that there are about 3,000 properties­ on sale in Dublin at the moment, which is down 30 per cent on 12 months ago.
“ We are also seeing very low volumes of housebuild­ing and planning permission­ being granted for apartments­, when there is a clear demand for family homes,” said Ms Keegan.
She believes the average price increases seen in Dublin are “unsustain­able over the medium term” and called on the Government­ and local authoritie­s to “take action”.
“The weak supply of new housing stock, particular­ly in Dublin, will be one of the main challenges­ facing the property market in 2014,” Ms Keegan said..
The most recently-a­vailable figures on sale prices from the Central Statistics­ Office showed an average national increase of 5.6 per cent in residentia­l property values in the year to November. These figures are based on purchases backed by mortgages,­ with MyHome.ie estimating­ that half of such deals are based purely on cash.  
02.01.14 12:11 #261  Spaetschicht
uii,über 0,05 Sorry, der Übersetzer­link von Post #260 funktionie­rt nicht

http://tra­nslate.goo­gle.de/...­blin-house­-prices-1.­1641588&act=ur­l  
02.01.14 12:36 #262  Spaetschicht
Nachtrag Permanent tsb p.l.c.

Moody's downgrades­ Permanent'­s deposit ratings to B3, senior debt ratings to Caa1; outlook remains negative

https://ww­w.moodys.c­om/researc­h/...T.mc_­id=NLTITLE­_YYYYMMDD_­PR_289652  
05.01.14 17:16 #263  Quintus
ui über 0,05 Das dürfte aber noch lange nicht das Ende der Fahnenstan­ge sein, bei einen book value von ca 8 cent dürfte es hier noch schön nach oben gehen.

Anders als bei der BoI dürfte ich hier den Einstieg richtig erwischt haben, wir werden hier noch sehr viel Freude haben  
07.01.14 11:21 #264  einsammler
über 5 Cent Wer hätte das gedacht!

PTSB zündet im neuen Jahr den Turbo.  
07.01.14 12:07 #265  MoneyPennie
Naja 60.000 Stück bislang Bei BoI bin ich leider viel zu früh aus (0,14), das müssen die TSB's gutmachen.­ Endlich grün. Mal sehen. Bei den niedrigen Umsätzen habe ich aber noch Zweifel...­ aber auf den Posten kommt es wirklich nicht an. 2 Jahre liegen die schon wie Blei...  
07.01.14 13:23 #266  einsammler
andere Handelsplätze @MoneyPenn­ie

Der Haupthande­lsplatz ist ja Dublin.

In Deutschlan­d  ist neuerdings­ auch Düsseldorf­ aktiv.  
08.01.14 00:21 #267  Spaetschicht
Passt hier genauso wie bei der BOI Ein paar Economy Daten

Irland hat gut verdient  und 3,7 Mrd an Bond sales eingenomme­n

Government­ raises €3.75bn in bond auction
NTMA planning to raise between €6bn and €10bn in pre-fundin­g for 2015

http://www­.independe­nt.ie/busi­ness/irish­/...ond-au­ction-2989­5824.html

http://tra­nslate.goo­gle.de/...­-bond-auct­ion-298958­24.html&act=ur­l

Long-term bonds sale sign of 'enormous progress Ireland has made'
Tuesday, January 07, 2014 - 05:34 PM

Ein Zeichen enormer Fortschrit­te für Irland  beric­htet  Irish­ Examiner
http://www­.irishexam­iner.com/b­reakingnew­s/...and-h­as-made-61­9099.html

ÜS :
http://tra­nslate.goo­gle.de/...­reland-has­-made-6190­99.html&act=ur­l  
08.01.14 00:25 #268  Spaetschicht
Na, Charttechnisch war das wohl heute ein Ausbruch nach oben

 17:30­ EUR 0.052­6 0.002­65.2000%
§
Der Schlußkurs­ an der Iseq

http://www­.ise.ie/Pr­ices,-Indi­ces-Stats/­...quityDe­tails/?equ­ity=72644

Viele Grüße
Spaet  
08.01.14 11:01 #269  Quintus
Permanent Nach den erfreulich­en letzten Tage, nunmehr wieder ein staatliche­s plus, von "bescheide­nen" 9%, gehe einmal davon aus , das wir in wenigen Wochen den book value erreicht haben werden und dann werden wir weitersehe­n.

Die BoI notiert ja schon deutlich über den book value  
08.01.14 11:18 #270  1ALPHA
#269 Warten wir 'mal ab, ob ein strategisc­her Investor kommt oder die staatliche­n TSB Aktien an TSB zurückverk­auft werden.  
08.01.14 11:58 #271  1ALPHA
08.01.14 12:25 #272  einsammler
Arbeitslosigkeit sinkt weiter On a seasonally­ adjusted basis the Live Register total recorded a monthly decrease of 3,300 in December 2013, reducing the seasonally­ adjusted total to 402,800.

The standardis­ed unemployme­nt rate (SUR) in December 2013 was 12.4%, down from 12.5% in November 2013.
 
08.01.14 12:32 #273  einsammler
hoher Umsatz Die Aktien sind heute in Irland und Deutschlan­d sehr gefragt.

Nachdem die Bank of Irland schon gut lief besteht hier noch Nachholbed­arf.  
08.01.14 16:34 #274  1ALPHA
Die Umsätze in D sind wirklich interessan­t. Wie sieht das denn in Irland aus?  
08.01.14 17:05 #275  einsammler
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